As the University of Idaho homicide investigation enters a critical stage, police must protect information 'at all costs,' experts say

CNN  — 

The investigation into the murders of four University of Idaho students is entering a critical stage in its third week, as police are starting to receive forensic testing results from the crime scene, law enforcement experts tell CNN.

Dozens of local, state and federal investigators have yet to identify a suspect or find the murder weapon used in the attack last month in Moscow.

The public, as well as the victims’ family members, have criticized police for releasing little information, in what at times has been a confusing narrative.

But the complex nature of a high-level homicide investigation involves utmost discretion from police, experts say, because any premature hint to the public about a suspect or the various leads police are following can cause it to fall apart.

“What police have been reluctant to do in this case is to say they have a suspect, even though they have had suspects who have risen and fallen in various levels of importance, because that’s the nature of the beast,” said John Miller, CNN chief law enforcement analyst and former deputy commissioner of intelligence and counterterrorism for the New York Police Department.

“Police having no suspects is factually incorrect,” Miller said. “Police have had a number of suspects they’ve looked at, but they have no suspect they’re willing to name. You don’t name them unless you have a purpose for that. That’s not unusual.”

Kaylee Goncalves, Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle and Madison Mogen were killed Sunday, November 13, 2022, off campus at the University of Idaho.

The victims – Ethan Chapin, 20; Kaylee Goncalves, 21; Xana Kernodle, 20; and Madison Mogen, 21 – were found stabbed on the second and third floors of their shared off-campus home on November 13, according to authorities.

The quadruple murder has upended the town of 26,000 residents, which had not recorded a single murder since 2015, and challenged a police department which has not benefited from the experience of investigating many homicides, let alone under the pressure of a national audience, Miller says.

The Moscow Police Department is leading the investigation with assistance from the Idaho State Police, the Latah County Sheriff’s Office and the FBI, which has assigned more than 40 agents to the case across the United States.

“They have really coordinated this into over 100 people that are operating as one team,” Miller said of the homicide investigation.

The FBI plays three important roles in the Idaho investigation, according to Miller.

The first involves its behavioral science unit, which is highly valuable for cases with an unknown offender because it narrows the scope of offender characteristics.

The second is its advanced technology, such as its Combined DNA Indexing System, which allows law enforcement officials and crime labs to share and search through thousands of DNA profiles.

Lastly, the FBI has 56 field offices in major cities throughout the country, which can expand the reach and capability of the investigation.

“The FBI brings a lot to this, as well as experience in a range of cases that would be beyond what a small town typically would have,” Miller said.

Every homicide investigation begins with the scene of the crime, which allows investigators only one chance to record and collect forensic evidence for processing, which includes toxicology reports on the victims, hair, fibers, blood and DNA, law enforcement experts say.

“That one chance with the crime scene is where a lot of opportunities can be made or lost,” Miller said.

Extensive evidence has been collected over the course of the investigation, including 113 pieces of physical evidence, about 4,000 photos of the crime scene and several 3D scans of the home, Moscow police said Thursday.

“To protect the investigation’s integrity, specific results will not be released,” police said.

Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told CNN she saw “lots of blood on the wall” when she arrived at the scene and police said “some” of the victims had defensive wounds.

Chances are “pretty high” a suspect could have cut themselves during the attack, so police are looking carefully at blood evidence, says Joe Giacalone, adjunct professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice and retired NYPD sergeant who directed the agency’s Homicide School and Cold Case Squad.

Lab results from the scene can be returned to investigators fairly quickly, but in this case investigators are dealing with mixtures of DNA, which can take longer, he says.

“When you have several donors with the DNA, then it becomes a problem trying to separate those two or three or four. That could be part of the issue … toxicology reports can sometimes take a couple of weeks to come back,” Giacalone added.

The next stage in a homicide investigation is looking at the behavioral aspects of the crime. Two agents with the FBI’s Behavior Analysis Unit were assigned to the case to assess the scene and go over evidence to learn about the suspect or suspects’ behavior, based on the way they carried out the crime, Miller says.

“Understanding the victimology in a mystery can be very important, because it can lead you to motivation, it can lead you to enemies and it can lead you to friends,” he said.

Investigators will learn every detail about the four victims, their relationships with each other and the various people in their lives, Miller says. This includes cell phone records and internet records, he says, as well as video surveillance from every camera surrounding the crime scene.

“When you do an extensive video canvass, you may get a picture of a person, a shadowy figure, and then if you have a sense of direction, you can string your way down all the other cameras in that direction to see if that image reappears,” Miller said.

At this stage, investigators rely on the FBI’s Violent Criminal Apprehension Program, which collects and analyzes information about violent crimes in the United States.

The program can match a suspect’s DNA found at the scene with that of a person who is already in the system. It also scans all crimes across the country to determine if the way the attack was carried out mirrors a previous one, pointing to the same perpetrator, Miller says.

“You always start with people who are close to the victims, whether it’s love, money or drugs,” Giacalone told CNN. “That’s generally the first step that you take because most of us are victimized by someone we know. We have to ask things like, who would benefit from having this person or in this case, a group, killed?”

In an effort to locate the weapon – believed to be a fixed-blade knife – detectives contacted local businesses to see if a similar knife had been purchased recently.

“It’s highly unlikely, although not impossible, that a first-time offender is going to come prepared with a tactical knife and murder multiple people, even in the face of resistance, and that this is going to be their first encounter with violent crime or the use of a knife,” Miller said.

One aspect of a homicide investigation is to “keep the media happy,” according to Giacalone.

“Today in the social media, true crime, community-driven world in these cases, the demand for information is so great that sometimes police departments kind of fill in that blank air and say something just for the sake of saying something, and then realizing that it’s either not 100% true, or it’s misleading,” he said.

It’s critical for police to protect their information at “all costs” and they always know more than what they release to the public. Otherwise, it could cause the suspect to go on the run, he says.

Miller said it’s “not fair” to investigators for the public or media to criticize them for not releasing enough information about the case.

But, ultimately, the department has a moral obligation to share some information with families who are suffering in uncertainty, Miller says, but they must be judicious about what they share.

“If you tell them we have a suspect and we’re close to an arrest but that doesn’t come together, then everybody is disappointed or thinks you messed it up or worse, goes out and figures out who the suspect is and tries to take action on their own,” he said.

Investigators rely on the trove of physical and scientific evidence, information from the public and national data on violent crimes to cultivate possible leads, Miller says.

Public tips, photos and videos of the night the students died, including more than 260 digital media submissions people have submitted through an FBI form, are being analyzed, police say. Authorities have processed more than 1,000 tips and conducted at least 150 interviews to advance the case.

“Any one of those tips can be the missing link,” Miller said. “It can either be the connective tissue to a lead you already had but were missing a piece, or it can become the brand new lead that solves the case.”

Every tip must be recorded in a searchable database so investigators can go back to them as they learn new details over the course of the investigation, Miller says. While 95% to 99% of public tips may provide no value, one or several might crack the entire case, he adds.

“Police in this case could be nowhere tonight, having washed out another suspect, and tomorrow morning they could be making an arrest,” Miller said of the Idaho investigation. “Or, for the suspect they’re working on today, it might take them another month from now to put together enough evidence to have probable cause. That’s just something they won’t be able to reveal until it happens.”


Football news:

<!DOCTYPE html>
Kane on Tuchel: A wonderful man, full of ideas. Thomas in person says what he thinks
Zarema about Kuziaev's 350,000 euros a year in Le Havre: Translate it into rubles - it's not that little. It is commendable that he left
Aleksandr Mostovoy on Wendel: Two months of walking around in the middle of nowhere and then coming back and dragging the team - that's top level
Sheffield United have bought Euro U21 champion Archer from Aston Villa for £18.5million
Alexander Medvedev on SKA: Without Gazprom, there would be no Zenit titles. There is a winning wave in the city. The next victory in the Gagarin Cup will be in the spring
Smolnikov ended his career at the age of 35. He became the Russian champion three times with Zenit

3:19 Diamondbacks World Series bettor four wins away from $1 million payout
3:09 Giants legend Carl Banks slams WFAN hosts for Kayvon Thibodeaux rip job
3:01 Struggling Oilers will be missing injured star Connor McDavid vs. Rangers
2:52 Elias Manoel notches hat trick as Red Bulls advance in playoffs
2:48 Disgraceful Karine Jean-Pierre’s words are just callous amid Hamas violence
2:46 SEAN HANNITY: The People's House is now officially back in business
2:42 At least 16 killed in shootings in Maine, law enforcement officials say
2:40 Georgia murder fugitive kills self when police on hunt for other escaped inmates show up at door
2:31 US Auto Workers Union Reaches Preliminary Deal With Ford
2:29 Jayson Tatum shades new Celtics teammate Jrue Holiday: ‘You old’
2:24 Magazine scrubs sections of Jake Sullivan’s essay praising Biden’s performance in the Middle East
2:21 Nets’ opening-night comeback falls short in last-second heartbreaker vs. Cavaliers
2:18 JESSE WATTERS: We have a compromised president in the White House
2:10 Kristaps Porzingis’ late heroics sink Knicks in crushing opening-night loss
2:09 FBI hindered Hunter probe — and David Weiss skipped briefing on Biden bribery allegations, US attorney testifies
1:54 At least 16 killed in shooting in Maine, law enforcement officials says
1:54 At least 16 killed in shooting in Maine, law enforcement officials say
1:51 Sterling Shepard in punt return mix vs. Jets despite Commanders muff
1:47 Craig Counsell’s true Mets intentions are about to become clear
1:45 Tim Wakefield's wife, Stacy, shares powerful message late husband left for her
1:41 Kyle Richards ‘taken aback’ by Mauricio Umansky, ‘DWTS’ partner Emma Slater holding hands: Something is ‘going on there’
1:37 Ford and UAW reach tentative agreement that would end 6-week strike
1:36 LAURA INGRAHAM: This is a propaganda victory for Hamas
1:35 Actor Zachery Ty Bryan pleads guilty to felony assault stemming from domestic violence arrest
1:26 NYC college's Jewish students seen locked inside library as anti-Israel protest moves through building
1:24 Blackpink’s Jisoo and actor Ahn Bo-hyun split after brief romance: report
1:20 Police respond to active shooter in Lewiston, Maine; medical center treating 'mass casualty event'
1:20 At least 22 dead, up to 60 wounded in mass shooting in Lewiston, Maine
1:20 Stream It Or Skip It: ‘30 Coins’ Season 2 on Max, The Return Of This Ambitious Religious Horror Series From Spain (Now With More Paul Giamatti!)
1:19 Panthers' Frank Reich voices support for QB Bryce Young amid winless start: 'We got the guy we wanted'
1:17 NYC driver, 40, charged with attempted murder for shooting at off-duty detective
1:15 Alligator gar caught in Texas weighing 283 pounds shatters multiple records: 'Four in one fell swoop'
1:06 Sen. Tim Scott calls for the deportation of foreign students supporting Hamas 
1:06 More than 10 dead, dozens injured in Lewiston, Maine mass shooting, sources say
1:04 Jets’ defensive line looking to up sack numbers in battle vs. Giants
1:03 John Stamos reveals what Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen said at Bob Saget’s funeral: ‘It was so beautiful’
1:01 See ‘The Crown’ recreate Princess Diana’s historic landmine walk
1:00 Joe Rogan expresses nostalgia for Trump era, says country was 'without a doubt' better than under Biden
1:00 Erika Jayne Reveals ‘RHOBH’s Biggest Pot-Stirrer Now That Lisa Rinna Is Gone: “I Think We All Have Moments”
0:56 US, Australia Reaffirm Shared Values, Cooperation Against Chinese Ambitions 
0:56 Hunter Biden missing from state dinner guest list after backlash for attending others amid legal issues
0:55 Rams coach Sean McVay invokes 'higher power' when talking newborn son: 'There's something special going on'
0:47 Alexis Lafreniere finally could be primed for Rangers’ breakout
0:46 Giant pandas to leave the National Zoo in D.C. for China earlier than expected
0:43 Fans slam Mauricio Umansky for telling Kyle Richards he won’t ‘allow’ any more tattoos
0:42 ‘Southern Charm’ alum Kathryn Dennis’ SUV involved in alleged hit-and-run at elementary school
0:35 No sex please, we’re Gen Z — young viewers want deeper, more unique relationships in film, on TV: study
0:34 Cooper Union barricades Jewish students inside library as pro-Palestine protesters bang on doors
0:34 Active shooter situation in Lewiston, Maine: Police
0:34 UAW reaches tentative labor agreement with Ford
0:33 Giants’ Andrew Thomas practices lightly but unlikely to face Jets
0:31 Active shooter situation in Maine, city residents told to 'stay inside with doors locked'
0:28 Falcons head coach dismisses concerns after Bijan Robinson's surprisingly low usage: 'There's nothing'
0:24 AI predicts a third of breast cancer cases prior to diagnosis in breakthrough mammography study
0:24 UAW reaches tentative deal with Ford: Sources
0:19 Sean McVay’s wife Veronika Khomyn gives birth to baby boy
0:18 Ex-‘incel’ threatened to shoot up ‘chads and stacies’ at University of Arizona: feds
0:17 Florida duo allegedly stabbed man repeatedly, threw him over bridge, stole car and set it on fire: authorities
0:12 Who is Rep. Mike Johnson, the new House speaker?
0:11 Yankees have had 'preliminary' conversations to trade for Juan Soto: report
0:09 California man breaks into Jewish family's home, threatens to kill them, yells 'Free Palestine'
0:08 ‘Breakfast Club’ host DJ Envy has no apologies for promoting a con man newly arrested for fraud
0:08 Biden team sees 2024 opportunity with GOP's new speaker, and more campaign takeaways
0:07 UAW closing in on tentative labor agreement with Ford
0:05 Biden must stop using defense partnerships as an excuse to cut Pentagon spending
0:02 Shakira fans blame karma after singer’s ex Gerard Piqué falls into stage hole: ‘Don’t disrespect the stage queen’
0:00 Obama’s warning to Israel: Letters to the Editor — Oct. 26, 2023
0:00 Clarence Thomas loan for luxury RV was forgiven, Senate Democrats say
0:00 ACLU sues Tennessee for 'criminalizing HIV' with strict prostitution laws
23:59 Who is Rep. Mike Johnson, the House GOP's latest speaker nominee?
23:56 White House state dinner celebrates Australia ties, nods to Israel-Hamas war
23:56 Drone video shows Mexican drug cartels throwing explosives along Texas southern border
23:54 Bear attacks security guard in Aspen hotel, remains on the loose, Colorado wildlife officials say
23:51 Beyoncé shares rare video talking to fans as she unboxes her new perfume: ‘It’s finally here’
23:48 'The Young and Restless' star Christian LeBlanc reveals cancer diagnosis after 'fans caught' sign of disease
23:44 Diana Nyad goes the distance in new film on Cuba-Florida swim feat
23:41 Jewish American students outraged by rising antisemitism in US amid Hamas terror attacks on Israel
23:39 Mike Johnson Won The Worst Job In Washington: Speaker of a Broken House
23:38 Lindsay Clancy, Massachusetts mother who strangled her 3 children, researched 'ways to kill,' court docs say
23:38 Jets’ matchup with Giants a reminder of how quickly things change
23:32 Nikki Haley rips Biden over antisemitism on college campuses — and vows to fix it
23:30 Mel Tucker sexually harassed Brenda Tracy, Michigan State investigation reveals
23:29 Brian Austin Green slams ‘DWTS’ for excluding fiancée Sharna Burgess from Len Goodman tribute
23:24 LeBron James' minutes restriction likley the new norm as superstar enters new chapter
23:21 FDA looking into claim woman died after drinking Panera Bread lemonade
23:20 North Dakota Legislature rewrites budget bill, ending special session in 3 days
23:19 'Squad' Democrats vote against condemning 'barbaric' Hamas attack on Israel
23:18 Wisconsin officials pass new wolf management plan, but population goal absent
23:17 UN chief’s justification for Hamas attacks shows the organization is worse than useless
23:16 Former Congressman Mark Walker drops out of North Carolina gubernatorial race to launch Congressional bid
23:15 Over 70 left ill following multi-state salmonella outbreak tied to onions
23:14 Husband of Cardi B’s manicurist charged with setting wife’s new NYC salon on fire
23:10 Elon Musk rolls out audio, video on X as he seeks to make it an ‘everything app’
23:09 UnScientific American, Trump is yesterday’s man and other commentary
23:09 Customer freed after spending night trapped inside NYC bank vault
23:07 ‘F–k Israel’ graffiti scrawled across Cornell University campus sidewalks
23:03 Dennis Quaid to host Fox Nation series 'Top Combat Pilot' debuting in November
23:00 Don La Greca goes off on ‘weakling’ Chris Russo’s retirement ‘gimmick
23:00 New report shows a majority of students attend schools with high or extreme levels of chronic absence
23:00 Biden administration pushes for a humanitarian 'pause' in Israel’s military campaign in Gaza