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"We were telling all sorts of stories to different audiences," said Pence's Chief of Staff.

Former Chief of Staff Pence at the Commission hearing on January 6

Former Chief of Staff Pence said after the 2020 election, Meadows "told all sorts of stories to different audiences.

Washington — Mark Meadows, former Chief of Staff of Vice President Mike Pence, said on Sunday He said he believed it was shared by White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows under former President Trump. Different views on the integrity of the chair in 2020 In elections with different audiences, we were able to share racial conspiracy theories with the former president.

"Mark often tells me that he works to get the president to acknowledge and accept the outcome of the election. At the same time, he offers many other people various conspiracy theories to the president. "I was doing the White House," Short said in an interview with "Face the Nation." "I think Mark was talking differently to different audiences, so as I said many times, I think the president was very poorly serviced by the teams around him. I think they gave him many conspiracy theories about the conspiracy theories and subsequent follow-ups on Election Day. "

Short,January 2021 I was with Pence on the 6th. It was when Secret Service took the Vice President, his family, and staff from the Senate to a safe place. The place after a crowd of Trump supporters broke the US Capitol. He learns about the former president's efforts to investigate the January 6 attack on the House of Representatives, reject state voters during a joint session of Congress, and unilaterally pressure Pence to declare Trump the winner. A short, private answer question from the House Elections Committee to testify about what was happening.

Pence refused to succumb to Trump's pressure and decided he was not authorized to overturn the outcome of the election. The White House aidecalled the Special Committeeon a phone call on the morning of January 6 that Trump called Pence a "weak" and a "word of" p "." I told you.

Pence, a key figure in the Special Committee's investigation into what happened until January 6, was in California last week, which led a panel hearing on a pressure campaign for the former Deputy Prime Minister. Democrat President Pete Aguilar refused to say on Sunday whether Pence would testify in front of Investigator House.

"It's clear that we want to collect more information, but I think we've clearly shown the case where the President didn't consider the Vice President's security at all and didn't contact him at all that day. In an interview with Face the Nation, Aguilar said, "If it means taking power over yourself, I'm willing to sacrifice my Vice President while stopping the peaceful transfer of power. No, "he said.

Aguilar said the January 6 committee hearing was "American. Says it's about "joining puzzles for" public "

But in short, Aguilar" should expect Pence to talk to the committee. Not. "

"I think it's incredibly unprecedented," he said. "A conversation between the President and the Vice President that there is a separation of powers to be respected. Remember that there is now a former Vice President who occupies the Oval Office. Let Congress pull the former President up. Want to? Vice President for a particular subpoena or a particular testimony. I think it can certainly set a terrible precedent. "

The Special Committee met five times during June. We held a public hearing and announced the results of the survey so far. More information is expected in July as lawmakers continue to receive more information. At the latest hearingon Thursday, former Justice Department leaders tried to replace department officials Jeffrey Clark and Trump in support of efforts to reverse the election results. Trump's actions to testify about what he did and pressure the department to challenge his losses discussed.

The Commission also shows how Meadows spread the conspiracy theory erupted in a YouTube video claiming that the Italian satellite was changing the vote for Trump to President Biden. Presented an email and a text message.

Mr. Aguilar knew that Mr. Trump had lost the election, but continued to spread unfounded allegations against him to prevent the transfer of power. He said he showed that. 

"What we have presented is clear that we continued to be drawn to these conspiracy theories in November and December because we knew that the president had lost the election. Shows.] The election was corrupted when I heard from a Ministry of Justice official. Then, when all legal doors closed and more than 60 cases were lost, the Ministry of Justice, to his own vice president. A pressure campaign was seen. "He said. "But every time there was no shortage of conspiracy theorists in his ears. The text message to Mark Meadows was countered by theory, by an individual who actually brought up something unfounded, and by his own Ministry of Justice. It shows that it did. ”

The Commission also hasRepublicans — Rep. Jim Jordan in Ohio and Marjorie in Georgia. Taylor Green, Matt Gates, Florida, Mo Brooks Alabama, Andy Bigs, Arizona, Louie Gomart, Texas, Scott Perry, Pennsylvania — Asked or explicitly asked for President's forgiveness I did.

"People seeking amnesty generally feel they have done something illegal," Aguilar said. "So I think it's important for the public to understand that."

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